One cannot say oxymoron until one has not defined what is meant by religion and science. So the problem still remains that the tools themselves seem to be built for one or the other epistemological approach and I just don't know of any objectivist-realist tools that let you approach the spiritual in a totally objective and reproducible way.I'm interested in what you could say about the tools of your empiricism that help you gather data about God. This chapter shows that idealism is better understood as a series of approaches to knowledge related more in name than in specific epistemological doctrine. Epistemological Realism and Onto-Relations . There are none. The difference between a realist and an idealist relies on their way to perceive things. I bet you surely will wet your pants if you were to go a kiddie playyard and try to do a swing with a banana in your hand!Why don't you define science as you seem to be a know-it-all. Idealism vs Realism. (It is not about eating veggie curry, it is about rhythms of life.) Ancient1,You are right, my claim is only as strong as the peer review process which I agree is flawed. This means that knowledge of God must first be gained independently and personally, but after that knowledge is gained it is subject to the system of objective checks and balances, meaning before I can claim experience with God in a rational way, it must be independently verified by the personal experiences of others. Teachers who follow idealism guide the students to realize their intellectual potential (Ornstein, Levine, Gutek, 2011, p. 172). It is opposed to epistemological idealism.. Epistemological realism is related directly to the correspondence theory of truth, which claims that the world exists independently and innately to our perceptions of it. This is the basis of our "intuition". In order for us to be able to differentiate between idealism and realism, we must first have a thorough understanding of the two terms. The difference between rationalism and empiricism would be like two theories where one accepts conservation of mass and the other does not, but both accept conservation of energy. Ancient1,Believe it or not I really like you which is why I have let the personal attacks slide after having already told you that I will censor such comments. In Mormonism we strive to balance those religious tendencies against an injunction to learn and be educated. And since you are the one saying orangutans being able to swing make them the better scientists means you are the one that has to provide the burden of proof. Ontological realism claims that at least a part of reality is ontologically independent of human minds. Modern realism has various forms such as, scientific, sociopolitical, aesthetic, epistemological and moral realism. The few who learn by observation. Part of LDS doctrine is the idea that we have existed as "intelligences" for an eternity before we lived on this earth. You're trying to justify a belief in God (which is great). The reality is it is genuinely harder to be a thinker than a criticizer. This is the point of Wittgenstein's Private Language Argument.So the issue that you are bringing up is actually the distinction between Platonic rationalism and Aristotelian empiricism. From my perspective, I am happy and proud to be a scientist, without any religious labels. You haveot responded to my comments which basically is that religious scientist is an oxymoron, which by now, puts most of you in that category.Scientific work has to be reproducible independently as reported. But note that historically our own university (BYU) has a reputation for punishing those whose learning leads to questioning religious authority (which is why I think BYU is "closed minded" primarily).I do think it is justifiable to believe in God, and I think faith is important (it is in my own life) and I use Mormonism as my vehicle of choice to increase my faith.
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